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economic soundness to this country. that take as big deal. a lot of pain. democrats are upset the president talked about pain on their side of the ail and republicans are saying no way will we give tax relief to middle income americans. they want to continue tax relief to the wealthy. everyone agrees a number around $4 trillion will make a serious debt on our deficit. it will send a statement to the world that the u.s. has gotten ahold of their fiscal problems and they are moving forward. it will give confidence to the american people that we can move forward to bring economic soundness. that's the president's commitment. >> 6:00 on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." look at that nice live look at times square. joe is looking spify today. he went shopping. it is monday, july 11th. >> i don't know what that means. >> we have msnbc -- well, yes. this is unusual. we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, john heilemann. what's so funny? >> yeah, what's so funny? i don't get it. he's back. >> we can't get him to leave. we have "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner and in washington
. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put into legislative language with only 13 days to go
14% in taxes and corporations pay 0%, and you raise more, you can have us a big deal here. >> they're still drawing lines in the sand that seem insurmountable with weeks to go before the august 2 deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for yet another meeting to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. officials familiar with the negotiations say majority leader eric cantor dominated yesterday's meeting. cantor laid out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by vice president biden, specifically $2 trillion in cuts in the next decade. the figure includes $1 trillion in discretionary spending. $200 billion in medicare and medicaid. and $200 billion to $300 billion on saved interest in the debt. >> so the military -- the military, i guess, comes in in the mandatory discretionary spending. >> military. >> sources familiar with the talks add that after the presentation president obama said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1 pp 7 trillion. but there are still some issues to resolve. at one point in t
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i'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a ma
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have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
>>> good wednesday everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story we're watching right now, debt, deficit, downgrade, deadlock. there's six more days until the august 2nd debt default deadline. really, does anybody think there's going to be a deal? >> it can pass the house and pass the senate. i hope the president will consider signing it into law. >> the speaker's proposal cannot pass the senate, will not reach the president's desk. >> another day, another delay as washington tries to come up with a debt deal. today's breaking news a bipartisan group did the math on both the duelling democratic and republican debt plans and both come up short on their projected savings goals. democrats put their bill on hold. while republicans scramble to rewrite theirs. >> things are very fluid. >> today's house vote tabled while gop leaders try to get reluctant freshman on board. >> i want a solution, not a deal. i don't think this goes far enough. >> does this keep us in the battle. >> john boehner has a group of people that believe their way is the correc
evening will be a big vote. the specific times aren't set, but we're into a series of days where these vote showdowns will be more and more important. a lot of the strategy will go behind the scenes. account various sides wrangle people to get them to their side? this will not be easy for either majority leader reid or boehner. >> kelly o'donnell for us, thank you. >>> joining me is congressman henry coyer and adam kinninger. gentlemen, good morning. congressman claire, the president asked the american people to call their congressmen, and we understand that some sites crashed, we're hearing that the server for the house is still down. what are you hearing? >> we're hearing from our constituents to make sure we don't have a default. we have to find a solution in a bipartisan way. i know there's two competing interests here, but i'm hoping that we get together and work something out. >> obviously congressman kinninger, a number of your colleagues said they would not support john boehner's plan, so i'm wondering if you will. >> well, i'll let every one of my colleagues speak for th
are loop hoeholing loopholings. >> shouldn't they hold firm, democrats, on this. >> this is a big step forward for john cornyn, one of the big leaders in the -- a leader in the republican senate campaign committee to suggest they're open to the idea if not in the intermediate term closing loopholes is an important first step. it suggests that you can win some of your concessions you want here. if you're going to take drastic steps to reform medicare and medicaid and social security, which i agree we should, you should also hold firm to say that some are going to have their taxes changed. if the middle class and the people below the middle class are going to make sacrifices, and all americans should. people on the upper oechend sho as well. hopefully they'll agree to a corporate tax cut and hopefully doing something incentivize businesses hiring going forward. >> we got some great segment ms ahead. and must reads. the tax issue hurts it economy to deal with this a little bit and get what the democrats want on this. i don't think it does. >> i want patrick to explain this. he never quite
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
at the white house, there were eight. it came out in the open at one point that group was too big. even eight of the top congressional leaders, too unmanageable and too unwielding. harry reid and nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell from the senate and john boehner who has been the president's chief interlocker over the several weeks. the question is can they pick up the pieces after the deal crashed and burned, the so-called grand bargain last night? ak moneyy back and forth. the president accusing house speaker john boehner of not returning telephone calls. the target is always moving, and moving the goalpost particular eye the issue of taxes, alex. john boehner said we had an deal on $800 billion in revenues. similar to analogous to taxes in washington speak. over the course of ten years, i've got more on my blackberry at this moment. the president came back to the republicans earlier in the week after getting an earful from democrats after seeing a rival plan emerge in the senate that had higher tax revenues. they blame that for kind of messing this whole thing up, fouling up the whole deal,
. how exciting. >> they match. >> they do match. >> the big news of the day, yesterday, of course, was moody's coming out and saying, listen, we don't expect this to happ happen. the chances are slight this is going to happen. just the chance it may happen, we are going to downgrade america's credit rating. >> we are going to put it on credit watch to downgrade it or we will downgrade it if it happens. first of all, the rating agencies were behind the curve during the whole financial crisis and they took a lot of heat for that. now they are trying to be more proactive. when you have a congress that refuses to address the issue, what do they do? it's not a shocker. it's another symbol of how dysfunctional things are in washington and what the stakes are and how dangerous it is. you know a few people across the globe. >> i like it when mika says it better. >> say international financeer. >> i would think these are trying times for banks across the world. look at ireland a second time. it's spread to italy. we have all heard -- greece, portugal. it's all across europe. it's coming to
. and thirdly, it denies president obama the economic and political benefits of a big deal now and one that maybe included stimulus and one that would have resuscitated the brand as a post-partisan leader, and one that would have taken the deficit off of the table for election of 2012. a good deal? maybe for the democrats who like bad deals and yet, he might accept it. joining me is senator kent conrad to talk about the deal. senator, welcome. >> good to be with you, ezra. >> this is the reid/mcconnell deal and not just the mcdonnell deal, and billed by republicans and democrats alike, so what do the democrats see in it? >> i think that about the only thing that anyone can see in it that is positive is averting the catastrophe that would come to the country if we did not extend the debt ceiling and if we fail to meet the obligations and fail to pay our bills, interest rates would spike, and markets would crash, and the economy would flounder. we would be in a very serious situation going forward. so, about the only good thing that it does is to avert that kind of catastrophe. >> but th
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
the battle on a short term debt ceiling because we can't put together a big one in one week's time. and you noticed the president had no statement in there, "i will veto a short-term debt ceiling." what happened to that? >> he didn't have that. i was wondering if you would allow if you ear in the president's position or advisor, you advised many presidents before. would you not tell him to stand up to his opponents? >> i would not tell the president of the united states to veto a short term debt ceiling. if, as a result, i'm going to throw my country into default over what? the president is willing to accept a clean debt ceiling with nothing. now boehner is going to give a debt ceiling with $1 trillion in cuts. why would he reject the good because it's not the best? >> my advice -- i think, pat, we've had this discussion on the show. pat and i sparred a bit in the last two weeks. i think pat, unfortunately, for the democrats standpoint is right. i don't mean you're right. you're more right this morning than wrong. if the president has to accept a short term plan which is looking more and mo
they are in crisis mode. a big vote coming this afternoon in the house. members will consider speaker john boehner's debt bill. but even if he can rein in tea party members to get it passed, 51 democratic senators vowed to block it. >> if this debate continues to be driven by the extremes, well, whether we go off the cliff august 2nd or go off the cliff at the end of the year, we'll be at the same place. >> i've got a little rebellion on my hands every day. it comes with the territory. >> you're not worried. >> never let them see you sweat. >> i think we'll end up in a stalemate. i anticipate that the boehner bill will get through the house today after he's pushed his folks kind of hard, and then it will be dead on arrival once it gets to the senate. >> of course, time is running out. default just five days away and things are getting so bad the u.s. treasury is now weighing which bills to pay if the country defaults. michael scherer is the correspondent for "washington post," and louise story, according to politico republican leaders are very prepared to say to the president take it or leave it.
this to where we are now which is how big a deficit reduction package should accompany it. >> well, i think as the speaker of the house is discovering tonight, it is the reality we all live with here in washington, lawrence, which is this is a divided government, a two-party system. nobody gets entirely what he or she wants, and yes, if we had been doing this in the normal way as has been historically done, there would have been a clean debt ceiling vote, which has traditionally been unpleasant vote often for members of congress, but routine, noncontroversial, and certainly not tied to any deficit reduction package or any other measure for that matter. what happens is the speaker of the house made clear and republicans in general that they were linking the willingness to raise the debt ceiling to significant deficit reduction. as you know for a long time, we rejected the link, but because we believe we need to reduce our deficit and get our debt under control. we also worked concurrently as we moved through the spring and into the summer on proposals to do just that, reduce the deficit and
this theater for however long it's been now really pumps it up. i never thought there was going to be a big deficit or debt reduction deal between the two parties because it's not in the interest of either party. i think the republicans were tactically terrible because they allowed obama to sort of portray himself or present himself as the one who is above the fray and who is interested in making the most cuts to the budget and to the debt going forward. and then making it appear, not appear but it's true, the republicans are walking away from a real deal to cut spending in this country. also, it gave obama and the democrats a chance to spotlight the republicans position on taxes. there's no way to get a handle on budget deficits over the long term debt without raising somebody's taxes. >> if this is raising the white flag, if this is going against the base, what is the difference between this and cutting a deal on tax loopholes and other things that would not impact their message overall. what makes this better? >> this is horrible. >> it's stupid. >> it's a nightmare. it's cynical. the se
backed bill included big spending cuts, a cap on spending and a constitutional amendment. >> it's a correct approach. this is fundamentally a spending problem. >> it passed in the house earlier this house. >> this vote the yeas are the 34. >> today majority leader harry reid grudgingly scheduled a senate vote. it failed just as he predicted. >> this is a very, very bad piece of legislation. >> today's vote could clear the way for one of several compromise deals. >> we all know mr. president there are talks going on between president obama and speaker boehner. >> this was a bit of hope yesterday when "the new york times" reported a possible deal between president obama and house speaker boehner. both sides quickly denied it. >> there is no deal. we are not close to a deal. >> there is no deal. no deal publicly, no deal privately. there is absolutely no deal. >> but he didn't say they're not talking about it. >> we've got to keep the lines of communication open. we talked about fall back options if in fact cut, cap and balance does go down. i do think that it's our obligation to h
unpublished research that indicates it might be simply big time peptide disorders. we don't know. i don't think it's as simple as trying to pass by the kentucky fried checken outlet without going in. this is a serious medical problem. we need to know more about it before we know how to treat it right. >> not that i disagree with you, governor but sometimes we reach for more complex reasons when the simpler reasons are in front of us. the tv remote control clicker and video games. this nation is filled with kids from 8 to 18 who never get off the couch. look at the advertisements for the real to life video games we have around us. that's all they play. they don't go out and play catch or run down the block to get milk. >> i think that's true. i didn't mean to say it had nothing to do with it but i think it's going to be a complex set of problems. it's going to defie easy political solutions. >> we'll move on to the budget. nine of ten states with the highest obesity led by mississippi, alabama and west virginia. they lead the nation in diabetes and high blood pressure. it's, you know, ob
't. >> it could mean big losses on wall street and beyond. asian and european stocks are tight. the ceos of some of the biggest banks are expressing their concern. ceos of banks including goldman sachs, bank of america say this, a default on our nation's obligations or downgrade of america's credit rating would be a tremendous blow to business and investors in an already difficult economic circumstances. steve rattner. >> look, the fact is, this government, at the moment, ironically, at a time when people are saying let's not forget about jobs. this government is doing their best to destroy jobs as we are sitting here. business needs confidence. it needs some idea of what is going to happen. i don't know if you follow what's going out of the faa. there are 4,000 faa contractors out of work because the democrats and republicans can't agree on subsidies. they are just sitting there doing nothing instead of building infrastructure. the republicans and democrats can't agree on one tiny issue. >> there's no level of certainty. all different levels of this country. >> wouldn't that be the goal here, b
, alex. some good news for some. we're lessening the heat, pushing it further south with this big ridge now going to park itself over at least the central part of the u.s., where the heat and drought will continue. right over the state of texas even through wednesday, you can see this little dip in the jet stream. that brings some slightly cooler air, not as hot air into parts of the east here, but right by friday the ridge is going to build back in and we could see temperatures in the low to mid 90s. i certainly don't think any more 90 degree or 100-degree heat, excuse me, but we're still going to see hot stuff. the heat advisories, watches and warnings in effect basically from philly south along the coast and into the nation's midsection where this heat wave has taken the toll. right around two dozen fatalities, unfortunately, from this big heat wave. so it is a big story. and the other big story has been the rainfall here in and around places like chicago where we've had heavy rain, record rainfall yesterday. more problems. and the drought continues across the south, alex, where we w
how big the taxes are to them. a lot of the member haves a religious fervor that any type of tax increase is not acceptable. boehner going from $800 billion in revenue could beç explainedo go up to $1.2 trillion which is white house suggested that wasn't a number is still open to debate was something is that boehner saw it as one aide told me impossible, a dis, they couldn't move it at all. >> one of if big issues is what are the markets saying and how are they reacting? it's been muted so far. i've talked to people, finance people who basically say that wall street is looking at this and saying both sides are talking about cutting spendsing and reducing the overall debt. so the conversation is at least focused on what they want to see and there's still a belief that they'll get it done before this is all over. i wanted to play a little bit of hillary clinton. she has been traveling throughout the world in asia, in hong kong today. this was her attempt tory assure the markets. >> very interesting choice of words from her. >> as i have traveled around the region a lot of people
here, right here. they will start working it. working it. take a piece how big they want it. they work it and work it until it cuts into the metal. whatever they get toothpaste and soap, mix it up and layer it. anytime you come in here, they can see this and cover it up. two pieces that were used, came from here. that's why they started doing this. this is contraband now. >> although level 6 is on lockdown, we're allowed to talk to one inmate about the toll the new restrictions are taking. >> i haven't been able to visit with my sister or mother because of this thing that happened in the separate housing unit. it was two other inmates, had nothing to do with me. so,itis not right. it's a nuisance. it's annoying because i don't behave in a way that merits my suspension of privileges, visits, or do a lot of other guys for that matter but yet we're being punished collectively. two weeks ago, they came and took away our nail clippers. we weren't allowed access except on sunday night. if we needed to cut our nails, the corrections officer would give them to us and then take them back. we we
are going to have a big choice -- they picked this fight with the president for a reason, the debt limit is not going to be raised unless we do something on the deficit projections now and in to the future. but the problem with the house republicans is, they never answered affirmatively in a politically sa political politically saliable way what the a the answer should be. you have to have a plan that can pass both chambers and the president can sign. otherwise, you're talking past the other party. >> the question is, nicole, what is republican position right now? at the end of last week, we had republican leaders on in the house, guys i like very much personally. been a champion of paul ryan. back from the time i met him, in 1994. but we ask, what do you want? and their position was, it's not enough to close the tax loopholes. we've got to cut tax rates, income tax rates for individuals and corporations. that's not going to happen in 2011. they know it's not going to happen. i say, okay, let's say you got that done, would that be enough? then paul ryan said, no. we need a fundamental tr
on cutting a big deal to take us through five to ten years, not just five or ten weeks. the problem, it seems to me, yesterday was a good example of it. you have questions tweeted to the president of the united states, questions delivered from the real world about housing problems, about i'm losing my house, my mortgage, what are we going to do. not policy questions from washington media members. the problem is that the president is dealing with a number of people who don't live in the real world. for example, eric cantor. no matter how many times he's been on and how many times we talk about rescinding the bush tax cuts, he calls it a tax increase. go to the grocery store and milk is on sale for $3.25. the next week it goes up to $3.75. it's not a hike in price, it's reverting back to the original price. they don't live in the real world. they just don't. >> he'll be on this morning so you can ask him again. >> we will ask him again. >> i would like to ask him what it is they offered yesterday that was different. the president talked about boehner's question being skewed. i put the question
believes that the boehner problem is anything more than a big, wet kiss to the right wing. i mean the tea party. that's what i mean. it's too bad the caucus is run by so little people. >> when i asked the plan, the aids pointed to a speech. congress can't vote on a speech. a veto threat won't prevent default. >> we are urging the republicans to step back, put their party caucuses aside, put their pledges to grover norquist aside and put this country first. >> it's unfair from the president of the united states to lead from behind. it's unfair for the president of the united states not to come forward with a specific plan that, perhaps to be considered by both bodies, but only to go out and give lectures. >> we are not going to hold this country hostage to the tea party. those folks over there, about 80 of them, they pledged to grover norquist. i want to pledge allegiance to the united states of america. that's what we should be doing. >> good morning. it is thursday, july 28th. look at the beautiful shot of new york city. welcome to "morning joe." yes, with us on set -- >> look at him. >>
couple of days. here is the heat. this is the big story. high pressure continuing, it's been locked in all summer. sunshine, temperatures in the 100s. upper 90s around baltimore. monday, even on into tuesday. watch the numbers. 92, new york city on tuesday. and 110 in dallas. by tuesday afternoon that would make like day 32 in a row of 100-degree plus heat. and we'll continue to see the heat through the week. showers, thundershowers on radar through parts of new york state. and bigger clusters down through parts of carolinas. they'll continue to roll east. quiet weather basically in the northern tier of the u.s. and some showers and thundershowers across parts of the southeast today, once we get daytime heating. we keep the heat where it's been. >> okay, thank you so much. >>> miracle landing. a jet from new york crashes just short of a deep ravine, and everyone on board survives. jew you'll hear from a passenger. >>> will iran free the two american hikers held in tehran? they heed to their final trial today. >>> and the behind the scene negotiations on capitol hill. why are we seei
for agreement. there is -- there aren't that many big differences between the boehner plan and the reid plan other than one critical difference which is under john boehner's plan, we would be right back in this mess right at the holiday season, having this same debate, creating uncertainty in the economy at one of the most critical times for the economy, the holiday season. we don't want to do that. that's the wrong thing to do. that's not just the president's opinion. that's just not the opinion of independent financial analysts. that was actually john boehner's opinion and eric cantor's opinion just a few weeks ago when they were making the same case the president is making. >> true enough, but there is plenty of precedent for short-term debt ceiling limits being raised. aside from ruining all of our holidays, what's the damage in revisiting this six months from now? is the president really, when it comes down to it after the warning from all the big bankers, is he going to veto a short-term increase? >> there are two points. first is we are in a completely different situation now than we
is the last day of the big heat here. tomorrow is a cooler day and much better next week. >> for those of us who had to walk through the city yesterday this concrete jungle when you walked past those stores with the air-conditioning blowing out, a second of relief as you walk through it. can i ask you about the humidity danger. we had 104 yesterday as you're saying that's two degrees shy of an all time high. but you know, you add in the humidity, eric, 113, 114 it feels like. how does this make things dangerous? >> it stresses your body. when you sweat you can feel when it's humid it sits on you. when that evaporates in dry air that's how your body cools off. when it's humid outside, you don't get that relief. your body is working harder that's when people succumb to heatstroke and heat related issues. that's what makes this weather so dashlgs. >> eric fisher many thanks. >>> well developing now in europe. a nation in shock this morning after a killing spree claims the lives of at least 91 people apparently carried out by one man. police in norway say they've arrested a man connected to both
, actually, if they know there's a big deal behind it will be quite -- wouldn't they, john heilemann? >> i think so. the time is tough right now. listen to harry reid and mitch mcconnell who know how the senate works and how long it takes to do the following things, to reform medicare and tax reform. they are things that typically can take many months to get done. >> isn't it a surprise? it wasn't a surprise the show started at 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's no surprise we have a deadline. >> to build the legislation is not something that can happen in the span of four or five days. you can't. the key issue is what obama will be wanting to see is the outlines of a deal where he has a good assurance the outlines of the deal can get past once the meat is put on the bones. if that's the case and the markets see that, everything will be fine. whether it's a few days extension or a couple weeks, it's going to take a lot to get to that point. there's no consensus on the house side among house republicans in favor of what the gang of six is doing. as we saw in the film, the video, house democr
committed to a big deficit reduction package because he was always going to include something that was impossible for house republicans? >> but that was -- this is where i bang head on table, right? because i am -- i'm basically a right wing person and if i can get a deal where you preserve the infrastructure of tax rates, you give up something on deductions, schedules, and credits, and you get a democratic president to say i'll go first on medicare, i'll squeeze the providers, or i will make some changes on social security, it won't work when george w. bush leads, but when a democrat leads, okay, but you have to agree in this 1 in 6, 1 in 7 thing that you don't like. i say let's explore. and the president on health care and now again on this debt ceiling, as you say, he may have been very insincere and counting on republican intransigence to save him from his words, but the words were said, the door was there. this could be the moment where republicans got a lot out of a president who asked only a little from them, overconfident they'd say know. we now see he's rightly confid
really big adult moment for the new republican majority and for people who've never been in politics, it's going to be one of those grows moments. it's going to be difficult. i'm certainly well aware of that, but we'll have to find a way to help educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it." john boehner has worked harder and done more than any other republican in the house to, as he put it, educate members and help people understand the serious problem that would exist if we didn't do it. but john boehner's best has not been good enough. he has been elected to the speakership with the votes of economically uneducatable tea party republicans who have no ability to comprehend the seriousness and the necessity of raising the debt ceiling, and so tonight in what john boehner was hoping would be the tea party's "first really adult moment," john boehner has been forced to bring a bill to a vote that he knows is the work of the children in his party, the political peter pans who still, with the united states of america careening towards def
. the president has made clear that he believes that this has been an opportunity to do something big and historic that requires political will by democrats and republicans, a willingness to take heat from your base as opposed to placate your base, but it requires a will on both sides, and with that i'll take your questions. mr. feller. >> thanks, jay. two questions. we're obviously 24 hours closer to potential calamity here. is the white house any closer itself to a strategy and what's the president doing to achieve it? >> as you know, congress needs to take action. we have been intensely engaged in negotiations, in conversations, in proposals and counterproposals with congress at a variety of different levels. the talks led by the vice president, the private conversations and negotiations that the president had with the speaker of the house. we have continuedç even since e speaker of the house walked away from those -- from that potential compromise last friday, we've continued to have conversations with all levels, with democrats, republicans, principals and staffers in search of a solution t
will be raised by next week, but the big question that everybody is asking is how is this going to happen, because it seems that all sides are digging in the heels and the white house continuing to insist that the president would veto a short term plan which is that plan put forth by speaker boehner that is as kelly mentioned would increase the debt ceiling in increments for the first time for six months, and press secretary jay carney, again, today saying that the president would veto that if it made it to his desk, and carney saying that bill would doubtfully pass the senate, but the president said in the remarks last night he does support the plan put forth by reid which would of course, decrease the deficit by $2.7 trillion and raise the deficit through 2012, and here is what press secretary jay carney had to say about the reid plan earlier today. >> it is a legitimate compromise measure. we believe it could pass the senate and the house if folks gave it a fair shake, and we appreciate senator reid putting it forward. the fact that there remains confidence in the world that washington
was apparently trying to do, get a big deal in a balanced way. so, that's the good news. again, the details still have to come out and senator durbin, a member of the gang of six said yesterday, they don't have legislative language. the question is, you know, what can be done between now and august 2nd, if anything with the plan or do we need to continue to proceed with a back-up plan, plan b. >> chris, i was going to ask earlier, last hour to steve rattner who was here and suggested if the plan were to go forward, there would have to be a month or two month extension to allow the committee chairman and chairwoman in the house and senate to do their business. this would be the most dramatic reform of entitlement since the reagan era. there would have to be an extension of time for the debt ceiling, would there not? >> i think it's right. we would have to work out some interim arrangement to proceed down that road. again, exactly what the time line would be and that question would remain to be seen. the good news is this provides some additional momentum to the idea of getting something big done.
of answers to that. first of all, the size of the debt, the national debt, has grown. it really is big right now, almost as large as the whole economy itself and it hasn't been that way since the end of world war ii. people have been increasingly attempted to use the debt ceiling vote as a political weapon. the democrats did that a few years ago. as a matter of fact, barack obama, when he was a senator, not president, voted against an increase in the debt ceiling for political reasons himself. but when the tea party arrived, they use this vote as an excuse for a kind of building takeover. i'm of the '60s generation, this feels to me like occupying the administration building, okay? that's who the tea party people are. they want to stop the system with a capital "s." they think they are doing the lord's work, literally, in doing so, and that's the problem john boehner had in dealing with them. he didn't have money to give them, instead of giving them pork, because there are no ear marks, he gave them constitutional pork in the form of this vote on the constitutional amendment to balance the b
through default, it won't be a big deal. now, john boehner doesn't believe that, mitch mcconnell doesn't believe that, but boehnor seems unable to move toward any kind of agreement, partly because he's worried about his own fate in this caucus or he's worried that if he puts together a deal that is supported by too many democrats and not enough republicans, he's also threatened. so i think it's that internal politics in the republican caucus that's blocking this. i think what might happen is that mitch mcconnell may decide to let harry reid pass his plan without threatening a filibuster. now, if he did that, the democrats could get it through with a majority. that's how most democracies do things, but not our senate, and that may set up grounds for a solution. that's about the only thing i could see right now that might begin to get us out of this or at least begin real negotiations again. >> so, speaking of that, of the idea there is, in fact, a majority rule, and that there's so much politics going on here, look, we saw this reuters poll indicating a majority of voters favor presiden
to end up with some kind of short-term extension, no big deal, and then everybody's going to blame everybody else for the fact we didn't get anything done. you talk about the gang of six, there's a gang of 300 million out there, the american people, who are completely fed up with this. they elect representatives to take care of housekeeping chores, and this is a grand housekeeping chore, and they are failing at the process of doing it. >> howard, i'm wondering, does the same thing go for -- it is my sense it does. boehnor is actually not the most disappointed guy in the capitol, he knew he was putting together something that wasn't real and that cbo shooting it down is not some big shock to him, that he was just putting together to claim he was putting something together. >> that's true too. maybe there was a smidgen of sincerity there and knowing him and having covered him, but yeah, they both want to be able to say after we all go off the edge of a cliff that it was the other person's fault, and that's exactly the situation we're in right now, and it's a dangerous and unsettling
for big oil companies, on tax cuts for the rich and on corporation tax loopholes, they are not interested in balanced budgets. they are interested in one thing and one thin only, making the rich much, much richer and making the middle class much, much poorer. that is why you get delay after delay after delay. that is why as the clock runs out instead of meeting in the middle they are lurching further and further to the extreme right wing. >> congressman, i know that -- we've heard political talking points from both sides. at this stage of emergency the american people want to see some action, the president said there is rough agreement between the two parties and likely the democrats and republicans in the senate are going to have to engage in negotiations with joe biden and others. where do you see this negotiation going? is the white house willing to concede a shorter term debt ceiling extension and deal with the two trenches that have been agreed to? where do you see it coming down? >> with all due respect this is not a political talking point. we have made our concessions. we have mad
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there will be a resolution if they stretch it out, and there is a big treasury action scheduled for august 4th, and if that were not to be sold or if the interest rates on it would have to go appreciably higher that could trigger a sell-off and another problem as well, but whether it is august 2nd, 3rd, 4th, there is a resolution of this, because the al terntives are just really too dire to conceive. >> thank you, andrea mitchell, for joining us. >>> and the man of evil, and did he really act alone? while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas. [ male announcer ] get ready for the left lane. the volkswagen autobahn for all event is back. right now, get a great deal on new volkswagen mo
factor in the obesity, and it seems like a big stretch. >> okay. wow. we will see what happens with the legal action and the debate especially when we look at the numbers for obesity of children and adults in the country, because it is stunning. thank you, kevin, for coming out to tell your side of the story. >> thank for having me. >>> and the fallout of the "news of the world" phone hacking stretching the globe. there are reports that british investigators are looking for potential phone hacking of 31 reporters at 31 different publications. and scotland yard has expanded the investigation to 60 officers, and meanwhile in australia, their government is introducing legislation allowing citizens to sue for serious invasion of privacy. >>> and coming up, alabama followed arizona passing a tougher immigration law to make it against the law to take an illegal immigrant to the hospital. today a civil rights organization filed a lawsuit to challenge the law. and i will talk to the alabama lawmaker who calls the legislation one of the most awful laws ever passed in the state. >>> and
friday, everybody, i'm contessa brewer. the big story we're watching right now, fast moving developments in the showdown other the debt. there are now just four days until the nation goes to the august 2nd debt deadline. this morning president obama pushed congress to find some sort of compromise. >> what's clear now is that any solution to avoid default must be bipartisan. it must have the support of both parties that were sent here to represent the american people. >> right now house speaker john boehner's frantically trying to tweet his stalled bill to get support from conservatives to get it through the house. >> time is presently short and that is an understatement. >> senator majority leader harry reid's tired of waiting. >> i would ask my friends, my republican friends break away from this thing going on in the house of representatives. >> so today reid's going it alone moving forward with his debt plan. it cuts more than $2 trillion in federal spending and extends the debt limit until march of 2013.
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